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Message # 17039.2.1.1.2.1

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Money

Date: Sun 10/07/05 07:18:55 GMT

Name: AnthonyX

Email: anthonyx@jowc.net

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Thanks, FF. You said exactly what I was going to.

Mr. Anonymous: Yes, my companion (not wife) and I will have our wet fun anyway. We may or may not take pictures (for our own enjoyment). We do not owe it to you or anybody else to share what pictures we do take. Everyone else who shoots wetlook has the same choice. Either make a gift of their pictures (and I have posted a handfull of free pictures) or sell them. In other ways, I have already given a great deal to the wetlook community, although much of it may have gone unappreciated or unnoticed. When you have put in the number of hours I have and dedicated the computing and bandwidth resources to building, hosting, and maintaining websites for *free* use by fellow wetlookers (regardless of their quality), you will have earned the right to challenge me or anyone else on the topic of "sell it or give it away".

So, Mr. Anonymous, what have YOU done for the wetlook community (for free) lately?

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Re: Re: Re: Money

By FountainFrolic - Sun 10/07/05 00:24:11 GMT

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No, "Anonymous" (not even brave enough to step up and put any identity at all behind your statements?) I believe its YOU who miss the point. Yes, Rod and Elizabeth are going to have their wetlook adventures no matter what. NO, they're not going to spend hundreds or maybe thousands of dollars on photographic to capture the 50 - 100 shots of each "adventure" to share with others on the web. Rod would actually have a lot more ability to enjoy the adventures if a large portion of his time wasn't consumed with shooting all those pictures each time. Your argument that sharing costs "absolutely nothing" is so absurd to hardly be worthy of comment - it entails significant costs, in both money and time. You say you "think its a shame that they just can't keep doing what they'd do either way, and share all, part, or none - for free." In case you hadn't noticed, they are actually sharing ALL for free - just in smaller size. Yes, there are many sites where you can post A FEW images for free - I challenge you to go count the number of images contained at the moment within Rod and Elizabeth's site, and then please come back and tell us even ONE free site where they could post anywhere close to that many images for free, along with the necessary bandwidth for HUNDREDS of forum members to download all of those pictures. I'm willing to bet you can't come back with even one single such site.

Its people like you who whine, moan and complain, and are NEVER happy with the amount of material that is provided to you FREE, who discourage folks who've gone through the time and expense to share with us all, and often cause them and their sites to disappear totally over time. Yes, Rod and Elizabeth will have their wetlook adventures no matter what. But if there are too many of your ilk who seem to feel that its their right to demand more and more for free - Rod may just decide that it would be a lot more enjoyable to focus on enjoying their wet adventures, rather than taking all those pictures and sharing them with us.

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Re: Re: Money

By Anonymous - Sat 09/07/05 21:42:26 GMT

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I think you miss the point. People like Rod and Elizabeth are going to have their wetlook adventures no matter what. "A little financial support" isn't going to change what they do one way or the other. The fact that they decided to share their fun with others is to be commended - and it's a shame that it has to turn into a money making operation. I don't complain about people who are in the business of producing this stuff as a business, but you even admit they're not. So I think it's a shame that they just can't keep doing what they'd do either way, and share all, part, or none - for free. Your analogy about your cost of film, etc is a non-sequiter. You and your wife will engage in wetlook eithr way, as will Rod and Elizabeth - so sharing costs you absolutely nothing. There are many sites available where you can post images for free, so you can't use the "bandwidth" excuse either. I see it as just another way to make money, and I think it's a shame that everyone has to always look for the $$ in everything.

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Re: Money

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Sat 09/07/05 19:10:19 GMT

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This comes up again and again. People griping about having to pay to get something. You may gripe about the cost of the gas you buy, but do you complain that it isn't given out for free?

Rod and Elizabeth hardly qualify as "wetlook producers", but supplying you with pictures isn't something they are able to do for free. They ask so little... if you like it enough, throw them a little financial support. If you don't, then I think you should keep your comments to yourself. After all, you can always find your own companion/model and enjoy some wetlook first-hand, can't you?

I've had the good fortune to find a woman who has discovered the "joys of wet clothing" . I've posted a few of the pictures we've shot. There are more. I spent money on a camera and related equipment, it costs money to display the pictures (hosting and/or bandwidth costs), and I had to pay for a number of other things just to make the shoots possible, so I'm not about to *give* away the pictures. If you think my position is unreasonable, that's your problem, not mine.

It is wonderful that folks like Tdouty will share pics for free. I have no shame in saying that I too wish I could enjoy all sorts of wetlook material for free (including Rod and Elizabeth's pictures), but I completely agree with their approach to offset the cost of their "hobby". If Tdouty starts asking for money, I may feel a pang of disappointment at losing a source of free pics, but I will understand and agree with his decision.

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What the heck happened?

By Anonymous - Sat 09/07/05 18:29:47 GMT

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I don't get why everything always has to revolve around money. I think it's sad that everytime somebody shows up on the web who just enjoys wetlook ends up deciding not to share with others, but ask for money. There's so many "wetlook producers" out there now I think it's just sad that even the couples who were in it just for fun try to squeeze a buck out of it. I think the change to a pay site for you guys is sad, you can't need the money that bad. I have a lot of respect for people like Tdouty and his girl, but I fear that at some point they will do the same thing, and start asking for money. Sad indeed.

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Site Update

By Rod and Elizabeth - rod@wetkernwife.com Sat 09/07/05 16:35:33 GMT

Website: www.wetkernwife.com

I just wanted to let everyone know we just posted a small update to the site today. It’s what she was wearing after we went to a club in Las Vegas last weekend.

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